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"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:1) by GregS* (2813) on Sunday March 05, @05:49PM (#24194) ( http://www.shush.ws/ | | Last Journal: Tuesday March 07, @11:30AM )

I can't imagine what its like to hate someone so much but in case you're interested (probably not) you might want to read this. --

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President was well received in India(Score:1) by Daniel (325) on Sunday March 05, @06:06PM (#24195) ( | Last Journal: Friday March 10, @10:43AM )

From what I understand, the President's overtures and deals with India were well received in some quarters:

The immediate compulsions and long-term reasons for Mr Bush and Ms Rice to favour India in such a marked fashion are far too many to list here. Yet, for India, it would be silly to ignore this amazing diplomatic advantage that has come the way of this country. Whatever one may think of Mr Bush and his monumental misadventures like Iraq, no country can afford to fritter away such a golden opportunity that has stupendous implications on the economic and technological
front.

Granted there were protests in India, but they seemed less bitter than the ones in Pakistan.

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Bush makes mockery of Democracy(Score:1) by kmccook (393) on Sunday March 05, @06:40PM (#24196) ( http://librarianoutreach.blogspot.com/ | | Last Journal: Tuesday March 07, @07:46AM )

Musharraf ousted the elected Pakistani government. Doesn't Bush recognize that? People die when Bush visits. Protesters are put in jail. He landed with his lights off. "Police in the city of Karachi fired tear gas to disperse hundreds of protesters trying to march on the U.S. consulate where on Thursday a suicide car bomber killed himself and three other people including the U.S. diplomat, a witness said." http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?
type=topNews&storyID=2006-03-03T132401Z_01_ISL175350_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-BUSH-PAKISTAN-COL.XML&archived=False

Re:"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:1) by MJG (5104) on Tuesday March 07, @03:25AM (#24225) ( http://purl.org/net/leftwing | | Last Journal: Tuesday March 07, @03:30AM )

A Pro-Bush article in the National Review? NO WAY! ;)

Re:"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:1) by GregS* (2813) on Tuesday March 07, @11:06AM (#24230) ( http://www.shush.ws/ | | Last Journal: Tuesday March 07, @11:30AM )

I hate to break it to you but the harshest and most well thought-out criticisms of Bush come from the Right.

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Re:"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:1) by MJG (5104) on Tuesday March 07, @12:26PM (#24236) ( http://purl.org/net/leftwing | | Last Journal: Tuesday March 07, @03:30AM )

Thank you for bringing much-needed (Right) Light into my life. I now see the true way of things!

Re:President was well received in India(Score:1) by birdie (56) on Wednesday March 08, @06:56PM (#24275) ( http://www.inmybook.com/ | | Last Journal: Thursday March 09, @09:34AM )

Sorry, Daniel, but now, a few days have gone by, and now bombings and threats of further violence have begun in India too. Whatever his message, his visits invite mayhem, hatred and death.

In this case, McLuhan had it right...the medium is the message and the message is "we Americans have it all and we're in charge".

Re:"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:1) by Fang-Face (37) on Thursday March 09, @01:32PM (#24297) ( http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/dreamweaver/index.html | | Last Journal: Saturday February 18, @12:05PM )

I can't imagine what its like to hate someone so much . . .

Just listen to your own right-wing foaming at the brain about Bill Clinton, John Kerry, McCain, people who lost family in the WTC attack and still don't agree with the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. . . .

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Re:"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:1) by Fang-Face (37) on Thursday March 09, @02:14PM (#24298) ( http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/dreamweaver/index.html | | Last Journal: Saturday February 18, @12:05PM )

. . . the harshest and most well thought-out criticisms of Bush come from the Right.

Oh, absolutely! I mean, imagine! -- you go through all the bother of manipulating, smearing, and election fraud to put your puppet in the Oval Office and he turns out to be so monumentally inept and foolish he makes you look bad. I'd be critical of Bush too if I was politically slanted. But his former supporters? -- well!

At Conservative Forum on Bush, Everybody's a Critic By Dana Milbank The Washington Post Wednesday 08 March 2006

If the ancient political wisdom is correct that a charge unanswered is a charge agreed to, the Bush White House pleaded guilty yesterday at the Cato Institute to some extraordinary allegations. "We did ask a few members of the Bush economic team to come," explained David Boaz, the think tank's executive vice president, as he moderated a discussion
between two prominent conservatives about President Bush. "We didn't get that."

Now why would the administration pass up such an invitation?

Well, it could have been because of the first speaker, former Reagan aide Bruce Bartlett. Author of the new book "Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy," Bartlett called the administration "unconscionable," "irresponsible," "vindictive" and "inept." It might also have had something to do with speaker No. 2,
conservative blogger Andrew Sullivan. Author of the forthcoming "The Conservative Soul: How We Lost It; How to Get It Back," Sullivan called Bush "reckless" and "a socialist," and accused him of betraying "almost every principle conservatism has ever stood for."

Nor was moderator Boaz a voice of moderation. He blamed Bush for "a 48 percent increase in spending in just six years," a "federalization of public schools" and "the biggest entitlement since LBJ."

But you know it's really bad when those who gulled you into illegally invading and occupying a largely defenceless country, desert you after you've done their bidding:

Neo-Con Allies Desert Bush Over Iraq The Independent UK

William Buckley Jr.:

"One can't doubt the objective in Iraq has failed ... Iraqi animosities have proved uncontainable by an army of 130,000 Americans. Different plans have to be made. And the kernel here is the acknowledgement of defeat."

Francis Fukuyama:

"By invading Iraq, the Bush administration created a self-fulfilling prophecy: Iraq has now replaced Afghanistan as a magnet, a training
ground and an operational base for jihadists, with plenty of American targets to shoot at."

Richard Perle:

"The military campaign and its political aftermath were both passionately debated within the Bush administration. It got the war right and the aftermath wrong We should have understood that we needed Iraqi partners."

Andrew Sullivan:

"The world has learnt a tough lesson, and it has been a lot tougher for those tens of thousands of dead, innocent Iraqis ... than for
a few humiliated pundits. The correct response is not more spin but a sense of shame and sorrow."

George Will:

"Almost three years after the invasion, it is still not certain whether, or in what sense, Iraq is a nation. And after two elections and a referendum on the constitution, Iraq barely has a government."

Yessiree! -- there's nobody more straight than a reformed crook. --

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Re:"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:0, Flamebait) by GregS* (2813) on Thursday March 09, @09:46PM (#24304) ( http://www.shush.ws/ | | Last Journal: Tuesday March 07, @11:30AM )

"Just listen to your own right-wing foaming at the brain about Bill Clinton, John Kerry, McCain, people who lost family in the WTC attack and still don't agree with the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. . . . "

Mr. Nellis, you are a liar and you are scum.

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Re:"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:1) by Fang-Face (37) on Friday March 10, @07:16AM (#24307) ( http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/dreamweaver/index.html | | Last Journal: Saturday February 18, @12:05PM )

Mr. McClay, you prove my point.

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Re:"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:1) by GregS* (2813) on Friday March 10, @10:33AM (#24308) ( http://www.shush.ws/ | | Last Journal: Tuesday March 07, @11:30AM )

You lie without any attempt to substaniate, you lie that I hate and foment about the families of victims 9/11 who might disagree with me and I prove your point? I don't hate you Mr. Nellis, I just think you're lying scum.

And to whatever coward labeled my previous post as flamebait but gave scum like Nellis a pass, go fuck yourself.

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Greg McClay - [email protected] - www.shush.ws Candidate for ALA Counci

Re:"Multilateralists, take note."(Score:1) by Fang-Face (37) on Friday March 10, @11:13AM (#24310) ( http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/dreamweaver/index.html | | Last Journal: Saturday February 18, @12:05PM )

I did not name you in that message, Mr. McClay, I identified your country's right-wing. If you choose to identify yourself with the hate-filled elements of your society, that is your choice, not mine. And everything you say only goes to show that you are very much one of that group. "Actions speak louder than words." By your actions, you prove that you pay no more than lip service to the ideals of liberty and free speech and an open and democratic society. If anybody has fucked themselves, it
is you.

Once, again: Mr. McClay, you prove my point.

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