Hating the U.S.: one view

Anne Applebaum:

The larger point, though, is that the "it's-all-an-American-plot" arguments circulating in cyberspace again demonstrate something that the writer Christopher Hitchens, himself a former Trotskyite, has been talking about for a long time: At least a part of the Western left -- or rather the Western far left -- is now so anti-American, or so anti-Bush, that it actually prefers authoritarian or totalitarian leaders to any government that would be friendly to the United States. ...
I certainly don't believe, as President Bush sometimes simplistically says, that everyone who disagrees with American policies in Iraq or elsewhere "hates freedom." That's why it's so shocking to discover that some of them do.

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Straw man alert?

"Many of the same people who found it hard to say anything bad about Saddam Hussein find it equally difficult to say anything nice about pro-democracy demonstrators in Ukraine."and"Many of the same people who would refuse to condemn a dictator who is anti-American cannot bring themselves to admire democrats who admire, or at least don't hate, the United States."Ms. Applebaum definitely demonstrates there are people out there knocking the Kiev demonstrators, but where are the anti-Iraq war people who "who found it hard to say anything bad about Saddam Hussein" or "refuse to condemn a dictator who is anti-American."I found bad things to say about Saddam almost every time I wrote a letter to the editor or to my Member of Congress opposing our actions in Iraq. Most anti-war people I'm personally acquainted with denounced Saddam's regime even back in the 80s, when he enjoyed official US support.Also, I'm personally disgusted with many people on the right who refuse to condemn dictators who are pro-American. Thankfully the folks here at LISNews usually do so. Our support for liberty shouldn't be conditioned on the "helpfulness" of the local despot. Eventually the country will turn on us, like Iran.P.S. - I'm pulling for the Ukraine demonstrators. They don't look like stage-managed like, say Venezula did.

Does Pat Buchanan hate America?

"The larger point, though, is that the "it's-all-an-American-plot" arguments circulating in cyberspace again demonstrate something that the writer Christopher Hitchens, himself a former Trotskyite, has been talking about for a long time: At least a part of the Western left -- or rather the Western far left -- is now so anti-American, or so anti-Bush, that it actually prefers authoritarian or totalitarian leaders to any government that would be friendly to the United States."I ran across conservative (admittedly fringe these days) Pat Buchanan arguing that the election turmoil in Ukraine is possibly an American plot:" For us to imperil it by using our perfected technique of the "post-modern coup" – as we did in Serbia and Georgia and failed to do in Belarus – to elect American vassals in Russia's backyard, even in former Soviet republics, seems an act of imperial arrogance and blind stupidity.Congress should investigate NED and any organization that used clandestine cash or agents to fix the Ukrainian election, as the U.S. media appear to have gone into the tank for global democracy, as they did for war in Iraq."Whatever one can say about Buchanan, I don't think one can say he "actually prefers authoritarian or totalitarian leaders to any government that would be friendly to the United States."I still disagree with Pat that the publicly available evidence makes it likely that the Ukraine opposition is a puppet on American strings. Contrast the overwhelming crowds in the bitter Ukraine winter with the small crowds in Venezula's spring. The folks in Ukraine seem honestly fired up on their own to me.I'm willing to listen to further developments though.

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