Why Students check out the Web instead of library

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Students check out the Web instead of library Star Tribune

The reasons students give sound a lot like the reasons I would have given as an undergrad. (P.S. This story is blocked as p*rn by my filter when I preview it).

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Why Students check out the Web instead of library

Because they are idiots.

deadline reminders

The "homework calculator" described in the article, which sends email reminders to students on a schedule they specify, sounds like a very useful tool, even if it's more handholding than a college student probably should have

Re:deadline reminders

Yet more pandering to students!!! When is this ever going to stop? Part of the educational process is learning to use the appropriate scholarly systems. Libraries are set up for a reason and students need to learn to conform to the system.Thye don't need search engines. They need to be given a pile of books and told to go sit in a chair until they have actually learned something.

Students in libraries

The article raises some good points, and each one of these should be addressed by every library looking to get younger people into the stacks and off the computers. Sure the Internet is convenient, I use it all the time for reasearch purposes. But I find that, with a lot of things, I turn to the Net more and more for just quick fact type stuff and not in depth.

For instance, I've been doing some research on fashion and fashion design. I've used the Internet to get some examples of the latest styles, listings of top designers, colour coordination, etc. In other words, I've gotten some pictures, diagrams, and lists. No website I've ever been to has an in depth study about fashion. For the most part, very few websites have in depth anything. I've noticed that you're lucky if you get more from a website than you would from a children's book on the same subject. Want info on planes? Sure, there's plenty of websites on planes and you can get pictures, specs, and stuff like that. But do you need a source that actually details the history of flight, different planes, how the planes were made, what innovations are present in a plane, what theatres the plane is used in? Good luck finding all that in one place, other than a book.

And folks, if your website is too hard for a majority of your patrons to use, don't give me this "Well, the website and the information is difficult. You have to learn to use it." Pardon the language, but that's bullshit. People don't want to learn how to use something, especially when there's things like a paper or a grade involved. They want the information, they want it now, and to hell with your pretty interface. I would rather have a text only telnet session that I can easily use than a beautiful graphical environment that's nothing but a pain in the ass. I think it's time that this place looked at hiring a different web developer.

And while Google is the librarian's best friend and worst enemy, it's nowhere near exhaustive. We all know that, because we're librarians. We never seem to stress it enough to our patrons though that yes, there is life after Google. I've had screaming matches with my computer because Google isn't finding something that should be so simple, I should've been able to type www.(my subject here).com.

As for fines and fees, I hate 'em. We stared doing them over two years ago and they've been a thorn in my butt ever since. But ya know something? I've yet to see a better way to get our materials back. So I can agree with these people that are upset that they got charged a fine for a book they had to have and needed all throughout their report. But I have one more question for them: Ever heard of taking notes?

Barnes and Noble's nice, and libraries that remove the book jackets from the books need to get over themselves. People are attracted by nice jackets with pretty colours and nice art. You want them attracted to your books, stop stripping them. The nice thing about libraries is that they don't actually have to buy the books. We need to push for the fact that, even with overdues, it's still cheaper than buying the book.

We Know they do and so do we

Okay folks, we know that the quick and easyanswer to homework assignments and findinginformation has always been preferred...evenbefore the net...be it Cliffs Notes, or afriend's answers... watching the video of Romeoand Juliet instead of reading the play...or making it up...whatever gets the answer with the leastamount of effort is usually the winner.I remember trying to do research in the pre-webdays and finding all copies of a book I neededgone and articles ripped out of bound volumesor that precious reference work sequestered behindthe librarian's desk...That having been said...the most important realitythat this article ignores is that librarians KNOWthat students and patrons alike are going tothe internet for answers instead of to books andboth academic and public librarians have createdweb interfaces and search engines and 24/7 answerservices...and they've gathered together the bestmost comprehensive electronic reference works andjournals and put them all together in websitesthat are created, categorized and even customprogrammed specifically for our students and patrons.WHEN our students and patrons go tothe web instead of going to the shelfthey are going to a web that has aninterface and content that wasspecifically designed FOR THEM BY LIBRARIANS!The revolution has not passed us by...WE ARE LEADING IT!

Filters don't make mistakes

so you must have been looking at porn.

Re:deadline reminders

And if they don't conform and just ignore the library?

Re:Filters don't make mistakes

This may be a bit off topic, but the Web did help me once in such a manner...

I took a human sexuality class in college and for the term paper I did a essay on stereotypes in the adult entertainment industry. For the paper, I had a chance to interview porn star and MENSA member Asia Carrera via e-mail.

The moral of the story, you can look at porn and still get an A in a college course!

Re:Filters don't make mistakes

Mensa is relatively easy to get into. I hear the porn business is harder. Although the porn business would not accept my GRE or SAT scores and Mensa would.
I get stuck folding and stapling some freaking newsletter every month, Mensa is a kick. I know why they have the owls....Who are we gonna sucker into folding and stapling this month.

Re:Filters don't make mistakes

I read this. Curiosity wins out and I couldn't resist. I did a google search of Ms.Carrera and all I can say is: she IS an enchantress. I don't know if she's Mensa material, but she IS cute!

Re:Filters don't make mistakes

It's okay, we understand. :)

She was my ultimate stereotype buster of the idea that women in porn are nothing but stupid bimbos who couldn't do anything other than lay on their backs. She scored 1440 on her SAT, went to Rutgers on a full scholarship, completely runs her own website (self taught computer geek), is an accomplished classical pianist who performed at Carnegie Hall, and I recall that she speaks four languages. (I believe English, Japanese, Spanish, and German.)

She was very pleased I got the A. :)

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