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Interesting story on Ward Churchill and violation of copyright. I knew Ward was a cheesball when I first saw his faculty photo.

I signed up for a pro-merchant account at Amazon and started selling books on line in mid-February. Now it is nearing the end of February and my sales have been pretty good. These are the books I have sold so far. It is fun to be a bookseller and connecting people with the books they want to read.
The Secret Garden...
Blink : The Power of Thinking Without Thinking [Hardcover] by Gladwell, Malcolm
Beyond the Blue Event Horizon (Heechee Saga, Book 2) [Paperback] by Frederik...
The Caverns of Kalte (Lone Wolf, Book 3) [Paperback] by Dever, Joe; Chalk, Gary
Prey [Mass Market Paperback] by Crichton, Michael
Cradle to Cradle: Remaking the Way We Make Things [Paperback] by McDonough...
Blue Highways : A Journey into America [Paperback] by Heat-Moon, William Least
Walden and Civil Disobedience (Penguin American Library) [Paperback] by...
End of the Matter (End of the Matter) [Paperback] by FOSTER, ALAN DEAN
The Difference Engine [Paperback] by GIBSON, WILLIAM; STERLING, BRUCE
The Silmarillion [Paperback] by J.R.R. Tolkien
Those Who Trespass : A Novel of Television and Murder [Paperback] by O'REILLY
The Good Earth (Oprah's Book Club) [Paperback] by Pearl S. Buck
Ten Stupid Things Women Do to Mess Up Their Lives [Paperback] by Schlessinger
Bearing An Hourglass (Incarnations of Immortality, Book 2) [Mass Market...
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry into Values [Paperback...
Dragon Wing (The Death Gate Cycle, Book 1) [Mass Market Paperback] by Weis...
Castle Roogna (Xanth Novels (Paperback)) [Paperback] by ANTHONY, PIERS
Flowers for Algernon : Student Edition [Paperback] by Keyes, Daniel
Constitutional Law (University Casebook Series) [Hardcover] by Sullivan...
1984 [Mass Market Paperback] by Orwell, George
The Indian in the Cupboard [Paperback] by Banks, Lynne Reid; Cole, Brock
Foucault's Pendulum [Paperback] by ECO, UMBERTO
Dune Messiah (Dune Chronicles, Book 2) [Mass Market Paperback] by Herbert...
Sons of Fortune [Mass Market Paperback] by Archer, Jeffrey
Walden Two (Trade Book) [Mass Market Paperback] by Skinner, B. F.
Win at Checkers (Dover Books on Chess) [Paperback] by Hopper, M.
Mansfield Park (Oxford World's Classics) [Paperback] by Austen, Jane; Stabler
Castle Death (Lone Wolf, No 7) [Paperback] by Dever, Joe; Chalk, Gary
The Jungle of Horrors (Lone Wolf, No 8) [Paperback] by Dever, Joe; Chalk, Gary
Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess [Paperback] by FISCHER, BOBBY; MARGULIES, STUART...
Gideon's Trumpet [Paperback] by LEWIS, ANTHONY
The Age of Innocence (The Modern Library Classics) [Paperback] by WHARTON...
Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man [Paperback] by Marshall McLuhan...
Crisis on the Korean Peninsula : How to Deal With a Nuclear North Korea...
SOLO by HIGGINS, JACK
August 1914 [Paperback] by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
The Immense Journey : An Imaginative Naturalist Explores the Mysteries of Man...
Into Thin Air : A Personal Account of the Mt. Everest Disaster [Paperback] by
Where the Red Fern Grows [Mass Market Paperback] by RAWLS, WILSON
Retreat, Hell! [Paperback] by Griffin, W. E. B.
Children of Dune (Dune Chronicles, Book 3) [Mass Market Paperback] by Herbert
God Emperor of Dune (Dune Chronicles, Book 4) by Herbert, Frank
Whale Done! : The Power of Positive Relationships [Hardcover] by Kenneth...
Classics of International Relations (3rd Edition) [Paperback] by Vasquez, John
Return of Nathan Brazil (Book 4 of the Well of Souls) [Paperback] by CHALKER...
The Christ Commission [Mass Market Paperback] by MANDINO, OG
PALADIN OF THE NIGHT, THE (Rose of Prophet No. 2) [Paperback] by WEIS...
Rose of the Prophet, Volume III: The Prophet of Akhran [Paperback] by WEIS...
Soul Catcher [Mass Market Paperback] by Herbert, Frank
Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal [Paperback] by Rand, Ayn ; Branden, Nathaniel...
The Cat in the Hat [Hardcover] by Dr. Seuss
Of Mice and Men (Penguin Great Books of the 20th Century) [Paperback] by...
Number of the Beast [Paperback] by HEINLEIN, ROBERT A.
The Hunt for Red October (Jack Ryan Novels) [Mass Market Paperback] by Clancy
The Story of My Life (Bantam Classic) [Paperback] by KELLER, HELEN
The Glorious Cause [Paperback] by SHAARA, JEFFREY
A Canticle for Leibowitz (Bantam Spectra Book) [Paperback] by Miller Jr...
Bridge over the River Kwai [Hardcover] by Boulle, Pierre
Nights in Rodanthe [Paperback] by Sparks, Nicholas
The Integral Trees [Paperback] by NIVEN, LARRY
Blade Runner [Paperback] by DICK, PHILIP K.
Autobiography of Malcolm X [Mass Market Paperback] by MALCOLM X
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish [Paperback] by ADAMS, DOUGLAS
Contemporary British Politics : Fourth Edition [Paperback] by Coxall, Bill...
Great Plains [Paperback] by Frazier, Ian
Centaur Aisle (Xanth Novels (Paperback)) [Paperback] by ANTHONY, PIERS
Vale of the Vole (Xanth) [Mass Market Paperback] by Anthony, Piers
The Darkest Road (The Fionavar Tapestry, Book 3) [Paperback] by Kay, Guy...
Shadow Dawn (Chronicles of the Shadow War, Book 2) [Paperback] by CLAREMONT...
Being There [Paperback] by Kosinski, Jerzy
The Ghatti's Tale (Finder-Seekers, Book One) [Mass Market Paperback] by Greeno
The World According to Garp [Mass Market Paperback] by IRVING, JOHN
The Captives of Kaag (Lone Wolf, No 14) by Dever, Joe; Williams, Brian
How To Win Friends And Influence People [Mass Market Paperback] by Carnegie...
Illusions : The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah [Paperback] by BACH, RICHARD
The Social Life of Information [Paperback] by John Seely Brown; Paul Duguid
Of Mice and Men (Penguin Great Books of the 20th Century) [Paperback] by...
Frankenstein (Cliffs Notes) [Paperback] by Coghill, Jeff
Amazing Grace...
The Fountainhead [Mass Market Paperback] by Rand, Ayn
When Bad Things Happen to Good People [Paperback] by KUSHNER, HAROLD S.
All the President's Men [Paperback] by Bernstein, Carl; Woodward, Bob
Different Seasons (Signet) [Mass Market Paperback] by King, Stephen
The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference [Paperback] by
Steinbeck's the Grapes of Wrath (Cliffs Notes) [Paperback] by Vlcek, Kelly...
The Restaurant at the End of the Universe (Hitchhiker's Trilogy (Paperback...
Speaker for the Dead (Ender Wiggin Saga) [Paperback] by Card, Orson Scott
Wizard's First Rule (Sword of Truth, Book 1) [Hardcover] by Goodkind, Terry
Stone of Tears (Sword of Truth, Book 2) [Hardcover] by Goodkind, Terry
Blood of the Fold (Sword of Truth, Book 3) [Hardcover] by Goodkind, Terry
Voodoo River [Mass Market Paperback] by Crais, Robert
Twilight at the Well of Souls (Saga of the Well World, Vol 5) by CHALKER, JACK
Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business...
Skeleton Crew [Mass Market Paperback] by King, Stephen
Summer of the Monkeys [Paperback] by RAWLS, WILSON
Huxley's Brave New World (Cliffs Notes) [Paperback] by
Ragtime [Paperback] by Doctorow, E. L.
Ten Stupid Things Women Do to Mess Up Their Lives [Paperback] by Schlessinger
Odds Against [Paperback] by Francis, Dick
THE HOBBIT by TOLKIEN, J.R.R.
Solitude: A Return to the Self [Paperback] by STORR, ANTHONY
What She Doesn't Know [Mass Market Paperback] by Wainscott, Tina
Gate of Ivory by Egan, Doris
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Book 1) [Paperback] by Rowling, J. K...
The Man Who Fell to Earth (Del Rey Impact) [Paperback] by TEVIS, WALTER
Two Old Women by Velma Wallis
And the Devil Will Drag You Under by CHALKER, JACK L.
The Red Badge of Courage (Tor Classics) [Paperback] by Crane, Stephen
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress [Paperback] by Robert A. Heinlein
Bombardiers [Paperback] by Bronson, Po
The Edge [Mass Market Paperback] by Francis, Dick
With a Tangled Skein (Book Three of Incarnations of Immortality) [Paperback...
The Legend of Bagger Vance [Mass Market Paperback] by Pressfield, Steven
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz...
Flight from the Dark (Lone Wolf, Book 1) by Dever, Joe; Chalk, Gary
Illusions : The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah [Paperback] by BACH, RICHARD
On the Far Side of the Mountain [Paperback] by George, Jean Craighead
When Bad Things Happen to Good People by Kushner, Harold S.
Of Mice and Men (Penguin Great Books of the 20th Century) [Paperback] by...
Blade Runner [Paperback] by DICK, PHILIP K.
The Green Mile: The Complete Six Part Novel [Paperback] by King, Stephen
Foucault's Pendulum [Paperback] by ECO, UMBERTO
Hiroshima [Paperback] by HERSEY, JOHN
The Book of Ruth : A Novel (Oprah's Book Club (Paperback)) [Paperback] by...
The Andromeda Strain [Mass Market Paperback] by Crichton, Michael
Ogre, Ogre (Xanth Novels (Paperback)) [Paperback] by ANTHONY, PIERS
Seven Seasons of the Man in the Mirror [Paperback] by Morley, Patrick
All Quiet on the Western Front [Paperback] by Erich Maria Remarque
All the President's Men [Paperback] by Bernstein, Carl; Woodward, Bob
Sailing Bright Eternity [Paperback] by BENFORD, GREGORY
Space Cadet [Paperback] by HEINLEIN, ROBERT A.
To Kill a Mockingbird (Cliffs Notes) [Paperback] by Cliffs; Tamara Castleman
Children of Flux & Anchor (Soul Rider, Book 5) by Chalker, Jack L.
Troubling a Star [Mass Market Paperback] by L'ENGLE, MADELEINE
A Wrinkle in Time [Paperback] by Madeleine L'Engle
Rand McNally Philadelphia Popout Map [Map] by Not Applicable (Na )
Zlata's Diary: A Child's Life in Sarajevo [Paperback] by Filipovic, Zlata...
Fire on the Water (Lone Wolf) by Dever, Joe; Chalk, Gary
International Relations and World Politics: Security, Economy, Identity (2nd...
On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors: John Z. De Lorean's Look Inside the
A Fire Upon The Deep (Zones of Thought) [Paperback] by Vinge, Vernor
Letters from Rifka [Paperback] by Hesse, Karen
Valley of the Dolls: A Novel [Paperback] by Susann, Jacqueline
Ramona the Pest (rpkg) (Ramona Quimby (Paperback)) [Paperback] by Cleary...
Amsterdam : A Novel [Paperback] by MCEWAN, IAN
The Botany of Desire: A Plant's-Eye View of the World [Paperback] by POLLAN...
Winesburg, Ohio (Bantam Classic) [Paperback] by ANDERSON, SHERWOOD
Hamlet (Cliffs Notes) [Paperback] by Stockton, Carla Lynn
Reliquary (Relic) [Paperback] by Preston, Douglas J.; Child, Lincoln
The Power of a Praying Husband [Paperback] by Omartian, Stormie
Trump: The Art of the Deal [Mass Market Paperback] by Donald J. Trump; Tony...
Blowback : The Costs and Consequences of American Empire (Second Edition...
The Jerusalem Scrolls (The Zion Legacy, Book 4) [Paperback] by Thoene, Bodie...
Anne of Ingleside (Anne of Green Gables Novels (Paperback)) [Mass Market...
The Fight [Paperback] by MAILER, NORMAN
The Very Large Church [Paperback] by Schaller, Lyle E.
Xenocide (Ender Wiggin Saga) [Paperback] by Card, Orson Scott
Darwin on Trial [Paperback] by Johnson, Phillip E.
Space Cadet [Paperback] by HEINLEIN, ROBERT A.
The Big U...
The Elements of Grammar [Paperback] by Shertzer, Margaret
The Code Book: The Science of Secrecy from Ancient Egypt to Quantum...
Forbidden Magic [Mass Market Paperback] by Beverley, Jo
Law School Confidential : A Complete Guide to the Law School Experience...
Along Came a Spider (Alex Cross Novels) [Mass Market Paperback] by Patterson...
The Will of the Wanderer: Rose of the Prophet, Vol. 1 by WEIS, MARGARET...
The Sharp End [Paperback] by Drake
The Beauty Myth : How Images of Beauty Are Used Against Women [Paperback] by...
Fear of Flying [Mass Market Paperback] by Jong, Erica
All Tomorrow's Parties [Paperback] by Gibson, William
To Kill a Mockingbird (Cliffs Notes) [Paperback] by Cliffs; Tamara Castleman
Don't You Know There's a War On...
The Notebook [Paperback] by Sparks, Nicholas
Time of the Transference (Spellsinger, No 6) [Paperback] by Foster, Alan Dean

I was in the thrift store the other day shopping for books and I came across, "The Beauty Myth : How Images of Beauty Are Used Against Women" by Naomi Wolf. I found a piece of paper that was stuck in the book that I think was ironic considering the title of the book. Scan of piece of paper can be found here. I purchased the book just for the humor value of the book with the ironic bookmark.

I found a website that is a NetFlix for books. The site is http://www.booksfree.com/ According to the FAQ they have 40,000 books to choose from and their cheapest subscription rate is $7.99 for 2 books a month. Any lisnews people subscribe to this service? What do you think about it?

I just read an article about a game called Booktastic that sounds interesting. I did some searching on the web and I found pictures of the playing pieces. The story in USA Today, linked above, is well worth a read.

Kctipton got the correct answer on the book quiz I posted last week. Blake also answered the question correctly. KC won the coin toss that was the tie breaker to see who gets the free book. The answer to the question of what all the books in the list had in common was that they are all favorable recommended by Stephen King. In his book "About Writing" there is a suggested reading lists at the end of the book. The list is not of books that King thought would make you a better writer but ones that he enjoyed reading.

The books are:
A Perfect Crime
Lights
Out
Pressure
Drop
Revolution
#9
A
Death in the Family
Lives
of the Monster Dogs
Regeneration
The
Eye in the Door
The
Ghost Road
In
the Night Season
The
Intruder
The
Sheltering Sky
The
Tortilla Curtain
A
Walk in the Woods
Thank
You for Smoking
Where
I'm Calling From
Latitude
Zero
The
Poet
Heart
of Darkness
Family
Values
Underworld
Cathedral
The
Gold Coast
Oliver
Twist
Common
Carnage
The
Church of Dead Girls
The
Woman Who Walked into Doors
The
Dick Gibson Show
As
I Lay Dying
The
Beach
Deception
on his Mind
Gravity
Lord
of the Flies
Furnace
A
Gun for Sale
Our
Man in Havana
The
Fifties
Why
Sinatra Matters
Hannibal
Plainsong
Smilla's
Sense of Snow
Dirty
White Boys
A
Firing Offense
A
Widow for One Year
The
Tooth Fairy : A Novel
Devil's
Own Work
Good
Enough to Dream
The
Liar's Club: A Memoir
Right
to Life: And 2 Stories
Survivor

The
Poisonwood Bible
Into
Thin Air
To
Kill a Mockingbird
Our
Guys
The
Ignored
A
River Runs through It
Moon
and Sixpence
Cities
of the Plain
The
Crossing
Angela's
Ashes
Charming
Billy
Ancient
Shores
Enduring
Love
The
Cement Garden

Dead
Man's Walk

Zeke
and Ned
A
Canticle for Leibowitz
Zombie

In
the Lake of the Woods

Speed
Queen
The
English Patient

No
Safe Place

Freedomland
Close
Range : Wyoming Stories
 The
Shipping News

One
True Thing

A
Sight for Sore Eyes

Waiting

Harry
Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

Harry
Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry
Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

Mohawk

Reservation
Road

A
Suitable Boy

The
Young Lions

The
Crater

The
ILLUSIONIST

Men
in Black

Joe
Hill: A Biographical Novel

Secret
History
 A
Patchwork Planet
 Hocus
Pocus
 Brideshead
Revisited
 The
Ax

I came across a magazine at Amazon that I am thinking of subscribing to. It is called Bookmarks
. Anybody have any experience with this publication? What do you think about it?

I stumbled upon this book. Sounds interesting. I don't remember hearing about this in the press when it happened. Do any of you remember hearing the story?
The Radioactive Boy Scout : The True Story of a Boy and His Backyard Nuclear Reactor

All the books in the following list have something in common. I am holding a contest to see if anyone can figure out what that is. Send your answer to bibliofuture@yahoo.com. If several people answer the question correctly I will ask Blake to randomly select
a winner from those people that answered correctly. Entries will be accepted until 5pm eastern time, February the 11th.

The winner will receive a brand new copy of The Know-It-All : One Man's Humble Quest to Become the Smartest Person in the World

Now for the list. All these books have something in common. The list is in order by the last name of the author of the book. The authors name is not listed but you can click on the book to find out who the author is. One hint is that the thing in common has nothing to do with the authors of the books.
A Perfect Crime
Lights
Out
Pressure
Drop
Revolution
#9
A
Death in the Family
Lives
of the Monster Dogs
Regeneration
The
Eye in the Door
The
Ghost Road
In
the Night Season
The
Intruder
The
Sheltering Sky
The
Tortilla Curtain
A
Walk in the Woods
Thank
You for Smoking
Where
I'm Calling From
Latitude
Zero
The
Poet
Heart
of Darkness
Family
Values
Underworld
Cathedral
The
Gold Coast
Oliver
Twist
Common
Carnage
The
Church of Dead Girls
The
Woman Who Walked into Doors
The
Dick Gibson Show
As
I Lay Dying
The
Beach
Deception
on his Mind
Gravity
Lord
of the Flies
Furnace
A
Gun for Sale
Our
Man in Havana
The
Fifties
Why
Sinatra Matters
Hannibal
Plainsong
Smilla's
Sense of Snow
Dirty
White Boys
A
Firing Offense
A
Widow for One Year
The
Tooth Fairy : A Novel
Devil's
Own Work
Good
Enough to Dream
The
Liar's Club: A Memoir
Right
to Life: And 2 Stories
Survivor

The
Poisonwood Bible
Into
Thin Air
To
Kill a Mockingbird
Our
Guys
The
Ignored
A
River Runs through It
Moon
and Sixpence
Cities
of the Plain
The
Crossing
Angela's
Ashes
Charming
Billy
Ancient
Shores
Enduring
Love
The
Cement Garden

Dead
Man's Walk

Zeke
and Ned
A
Canticle for Leibowitz
Zombie

In
the Lake of the Woods

Speed
Queen
The
English Patient

No
Safe Place

Freedomland
Close
Range : Wyoming Stories
 The
Shipping News

One
True Thing

A
Sight for Sore Eyes

Waiting

Harry
Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

Harry
Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry
Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

Mohawk

Reservation
Road

A
Suitable Boy

The
Young Lions

The
Crater

The
ILLUSIONIST

Men
in Black

Joe
Hill: A Biographical Novel

Secret
History
 A
Patchwork Planet
 Hocus
Pocus
 Brideshead
Revisited
 The
Ax

I found an interesting article that discuses how "the film Groundhog Day has become a curious favorite of religious leaders of many faiths, who all see in "Groundhog Day" a reflection of their own spiritual messages."

Quote from the director "At first I would get mail saying, 'Oh, you must be a Christian, because the movie so beautifully expresses Christian belief,' " Mr. Ramis said during a conversation on his mobile phone as he was walking the streets of Los Angeles. "Then rabbis started calling from all over, saying they were preaching the film as their next sermon. And the Buddhists! Well, I knew they loved it, because my mother-in-law has lived in a Buddhist meditation center for 30 years and my wife lived there for 5 years."

Here is a picture of something that is in the very center of the Forbidden City in Beijing. Is nothing sacred?

I arrived home from China last saturday. We landed in Los Angeles Friday at roughly 5pm. The funny thing is that we left China Friday night at 9pm.

The day after Rose was given to us we drove to Xiaogan city. Xiaogan is the city where Rose was found. It is roughly twenty miles to the north of Wuhan, in central China. Xiaogan has a population of 5 million. The interesting thing is that on many maps it is hard to find the city.
Here is a picture of Rose on the bus as we drive to Xiaogan.

Here is a picture of where Rose was found. The green sign is pointing to the hospital. She was found behind the colored tarp on the left. Behind the colored tarp is the gate to the hospital. You can see that it is a very busy street and I can only assume she was found quickly.
Although it would seem to be a place of sadness I found the street to be a warm and inviting place. There was the smell of cooking food and a warm happy bustle on the street. There were lots of colors on the street. I can only hope that if Rose ever asks to see this street that she will find it as comforting a place as I did.

I am in southern China in the city of Guangzhou. I am using an Internet cafe that is near our hotel. Last Monday we met our new daughter. She is from the Hubei province in central China. We stayed a week in Hubei and then cam down to Guangzhou because this is where the American Consulate is. Tomorrow we go to the American Consulate and receive our Visas and my daughter gets her American passport.

It is 9pm Wednesday night. In New York it is 8am in the morning.

Remember Mos Eisley? Of course you do. There was never a more wretched hive of scum and villany. When you think scum and villany do you think Golden Books? If not check this out...
Journey to Mos Eisley

I found out about this book from an episode of NOVA on PBS. The show was called Ancient Refuge in the Holy Land Secrets of the Cave of Letters: Rediscovering a Dead Sea Mystery

A student came to me and asked if I had a suggestion on purchasing a wireless router. I have a NetGear router at home that I am happy with so I looked on Amazon to find what the going price is. I had purchased my router for $125 with a $40 mail. I found a NetGear router at Amazon for $39.99 and it had a mail in rebate for $30. $10 for a wireless router! I looked today and the rebate has been reduced to $20 so the final cost for the router is $20. The student bought the router for $39.99 with the $30 mail in rebate. A trade paperback goes for $11.99. I didn't think that wireless routers would be the same price as a paperback. You can see the router at http://tinyurl.com/43h7f

Every year since 1903 RR Donnelly has printed a Christmas book to distribute to customers and shareholders. The 2004 book is now out. Additional details can be found here.

In a June 3, 2004 New York Times there was an article titled, "In the Virtual Stacks, Pirated Books Find Eager Thumbs". I found a line in the article that really made me think.

The article was mentioning a 39 year old man that downloads many books that still are under copyright and he also used Project Gutenberg. Here is the brief section from the article.

For classics he visits Project Gutenberg, a vast legal repository of mostly older works for which no copyright is in effect; he uses news groups to download current publications still protected by copyright. ''These groups offer opportunity to read books not always available,'' he said. ''I have yet to find a library or bookstore so well stocked.

He has not found a library or bookstore that is as well stocked as Project Gutenberg? Project Gutenberg currently has around 13,000 etexts. Even small public libraries have collections that rival that number. But I think this gets to an interesting point. Why would such a small collection be considered so large by the user? I think it is because every etext listed can be clicked on and viewed full text. The book is always on the shelf. It is never out of print. The user gets the experience of, "if you see it we have it." At a library sometimes the book is missing or checked out.

What do you think of the users statement of never seeing a library or bookstore so well stocked?

I was looking around on the web and found a neat site where you can create your own bookplates. They have an interactive interface that shows what your bookplate would like like. The site is also librarian friendly in that they have non acidic glue for putting the plates in your books and the paper of the plates is acid free.
http://www.bookplates.com/

I found an interesting book called "The Archivist"
I really like the first line of the book. With a little effort, anything can be shown to connect with anything else: existence is infinitely cross-referenced.